except it’s a Samsung so it’s about 6 months away from needing a $400 motherboard or other insanely stupid electronic component that is worth more than the machine itself.
Well it easy to just repair your own washing machine yours-….. Oh it’s Samsung, never mind. Overly complex electronics and digital control made to not be fixable and break just after warrenty. But on the upside, it has ads and doesn’t work without an app on your phone!
Remember the time when a washing machine actually was made to wash clothes, for over 20 years? Or a fridge, which was designed to keep your products cool, for over 20 years? Without a monthly subscription, no ads, no updates, no popups, no ai which doesn’t work, no phone connectivity required, etc. And all for a reasonable price, as it wasn’t an overly complex computer. 120 euros for a washing machine which lasts for over 20 years, or a 650 euros for one that lasts 2 years and 2 months.
We’re not buying appliences that make our life easy anymore. We’re just buying trinkets designed to make companies and billionaires as rich as possible.
Hm. Do they have a Canadian service network? Cause I’m a bit skeptical towards German engineering these days. We’re runnung a pair of Whirlpools that have parts and repair people available for.
The problem is that there are very few well built appliances anymore, even among the expensive options. Some catagories just have no option that’s competently designed and manufactured at all, from any brand.
You are correct that adjusted for inflation/portion of yearly average income, appliances used to be proportionally much more expensive, though. Manufacturers could afford to build them to last back then.
Bad ones are also expensive. For what I’ve seen, the cheap ones are the non-smart basic function devices. They usually last longer and if they break they can be easily fixed with a screwdriver and a YouTube tutorial. You don’t need a Rolls Royce, a Toyota Landcruiser works just fine.
The Miele oven I had broke 2 months after 2 year warrenty. The mechanic who looked at it said it was dead, I needed to buy a new one. I found the issue myself, the spit roast function (which I never used) was broken. I unplugged it and the over worked again. The Miele mechanic costed €185. The news I needed to buy a new one costed me that much, even though it was a simple fix.
Miele used to produce great devices which would last for 40 years. But also they found out you sell less when it never breaks. Now they rely on their good name while the quality becomes less.
That’s why you prepare a hallway with like 20 of these alcoves. When one machine breaks, you simply pump it full of cement and plaster it over. It just becomes part of the wall. It remains there, entombed forever, like some latter-day washing machine Pompeii. Or maybe you don’t plaster over them at all. Maybe you proudly display them. “These are the washing machines of my ancestors…”
My wife was a huge Samsung fan. When it came time to get a washer I found a ding and dent option at a habitat for humanity ReStore. It likes to get unbalanced but it’s still kicking after 8 years. I didn’t expect it to last this long. But I know for a fact the next time we get one my wife will not care if it’s Samsung or not.
I had a similar unbalanced issue with a Samsung dryer years ago. Weird as hell rubbing noise but as far as I could tell no actual mechanical issue with the drum. Realized that lifting the front end made it stop immediately. Tried adjusting the feet but that didn’t resolve it consistently.
I shoved a 2in high piece of wood under the front lip and the machine has never made the noise again. Still going strong.
the worst part is that said electronic component will have been the cheapest one to physically manufacture, but because it’s the hardest to copy they can charge whatever the fuck they like
I moved recently and had some small filing cabinets that needed to be moved downstairs (and subsequently back upstairs). I was amazed at how heavy the near-empty, cheap sheet metal cabinets were, until I saw the giant paver stones bolted to the inside back wall to give them support when the drawers are open.
The hippie probably doesn’t use fabric softener. That shit isn’t worth it in my opinion, and just makes things softer at the expense of lifetime and performance. Things like towels lose absorbency when you use it, workout clothes don’t wick sweat off your skin as easy, it can demonish the flame retardant property of kid clothes, and it can make it easier for mold/mildew to grow in your machine.
If you’re using it for static/smells, just use dryer balls and some essential oil. I think they’re also pretty good at softening your clothes.
What are the issues by doing something similar? Let us say instead of concreate I have a custom bracket that will arrest any movement. What are the issues it can cause?
You’ll likely kill the motor or drum elements. In essence, your washing machine is an unbalanced centrifuge that tries to release the energy differential by moving the entire thing.
If you restrict its movement, the whole load and the respective mechanical stress will fall on parts moving and holding the drum. They are not meant to hold that kind of load and will break quickly.
Damn forgot about the damn postal service sniffing through my mail.
Alright it’s okay, gimmie your address, I’ll come over and stay a few days (the streets get lonely), then we can get to the brass tacks with these instructions (!), then I’ll probably stay a few more days (one month max, I promise).
The forces that would normally just affect the washing machine and the floor it’s on will now affect the bracketed surface. Depending on the type of construction the violent vibrations will start to decay that section of the building. Brick will eventually crack and crumble, wood may not break but it’ll be louder. The problem is mainly that with this setup there’s no extra dampener, so the best solution is to buy a washing machine with better dampening system. FWIW my machine suspends its drum with two shock absorbers on the bottom and two suspension springs at the top, and has a central motor instead of an offset one with a belt. It also has concrete counterweights and a digital load-balancing system. If you’re having problems with your machine you should find one with similar features
Simply isolate the washing machine completely from the building. Levitate it entirely off the ground, suspended in the air via a massive toroidal superconducting electromagnet, 3 meters in diameter, cooled by liquid helium. (Which will need to be regularly topped off. It tends to slowly leak through solid walls.)
The noise would be greatly reduced. As the machine thrashes about, it will do little but disturb the air around it. Little noise will be generated, except from the sound of the machine’s own parts acting against each other.
Though, if you really wanted to optimize this for this setup, a different design is in order? Perhaps a non-standard design would better handle internal vibrational damping? Have you considered calling local stores and asking if they have any spherical washing machines in stock?
Maintenance is probably the first thing that comes to mind and custom bracket that allows maintenance is just over engineering a simple solution like a hole or just leaving it standing in the same place where the bracket was supposed to be.
Washing machines are already designed to minimize all the movement it causes. It just isn’t worth the effort to do anything else to it.
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except it’s a Samsung so it’s about 6 months away from needing a $400 motherboard or other insanely stupid electronic component that is worth more than the machine itself.
When I got this house, all my appliances were Samsung. It’s been five years. None of my appliances are Samsung.
My rule is if you’ve ever made a TV or cell phone I’ll NEVER buy your appliance.
Well it easy to just repair your own washing machine yours-….. Oh it’s Samsung, never mind. Overly complex electronics and digital control made to not be fixable and break just after warrenty. But on the upside, it has ads and doesn’t work without an app on your phone!
Remember the time when a washing machine actually was made to wash clothes, for over 20 years? Or a fridge, which was designed to keep your products cool, for over 20 years? Without a monthly subscription, no ads, no updates, no popups, no ai which doesn’t work, no phone connectivity required, etc. And all for a reasonable price, as it wasn’t an overly complex computer. 120 euros for a washing machine which lasts for over 20 years, or a 650 euros for one that lasts 2 years and 2 months.
We’re not buying appliences that make our life easy anymore. We’re just buying trinkets designed to make companies and billionaires as rich as possible.
All appliances used to be really expensive, now only good ones are. Stop buying crap and they will last 20 years.
Like what?
Speed Queen
Miele, Bosch Benchmark.
Bosch appliances are famous for designed failure and inability to fix. Their washers are designed to break. Your opinion is a decade out of date.
Hm. Do they have a Canadian service network? Cause I’m a bit skeptical towards German engineering these days. We’re runnung a pair of Whirlpools that have parts and repair people available for.
Miele does for sure. Not sure about Bosch.
The problem is that there are very few well built appliances anymore, even among the expensive options. Some catagories just have no option that’s competently designed and manufactured at all, from any brand.
You are correct that adjusted for inflation/portion of yearly average income, appliances used to be proportionally much more expensive, though. Manufacturers could afford to build them to last back then.
Bad ones are also expensive. For what I’ve seen, the cheap ones are the non-smart basic function devices. They usually last longer and if they break they can be easily fixed with a screwdriver and a YouTube tutorial. You don’t need a Rolls Royce, a Toyota Landcruiser works just fine.
No Miele appliance I have owned has ever broken. But agreed, adding screens and TVs is just dumb and increases the price with no benefit.
The Miele oven I had broke 2 months after 2 year warrenty. The mechanic who looked at it said it was dead, I needed to buy a new one. I found the issue myself, the spit roast function (which I never used) was broken. I unplugged it and the over worked again. The Miele mechanic costed €185. The news I needed to buy a new one costed me that much, even though it was a simple fix.
Miele used to produce great devices which would last for 40 years. But also they found out you sell less when it never breaks. Now they rely on their good name while the quality becomes less.
Strange. Made the mistake of getting the 10 year warranty on all of the appliances and never used it.
That’s why you prepare a hallway with like 20 of these alcoves. When one machine breaks, you simply pump it full of cement and plaster it over. It just becomes part of the wall. It remains there, entombed forever, like some latter-day washing machine Pompeii. Or maybe you don’t plaster over them at all. Maybe you proudly display them. “These are the washing machines of my ancestors…”
That’s built in storage right there
For us it was the $180 concrete counterbalance weight that broke, dented the front panel, and broke the drain tube clean out up front. Hunk of junk.
My wife was a huge Samsung fan. When it came time to get a washer I found a ding and dent option at a habitat for humanity ReStore. It likes to get unbalanced but it’s still kicking after 8 years. I didn’t expect it to last this long. But I know for a fact the next time we get one my wife will not care if it’s Samsung or not.
I had a similar unbalanced issue with a Samsung dryer years ago. Weird as hell rubbing noise but as far as I could tell no actual mechanical issue with the drum. Realized that lifting the front end made it stop immediately. Tried adjusting the feet but that didn’t resolve it consistently.
I shoved a 2in high piece of wood under the front lip and the machine has never made the noise again. Still going strong.
I think ours is a spring.
the worst part is that said electronic component will have been the cheapest one to physically manufacture, but because it’s the hardest to copy they can charge whatever the fuck they like
Costs
It’s probably not worth it.
That’s … that’s the joke
Fun fact: Clothes washers actually do have concrete weights in them to help damper spin oscillations:
Source: The Secret Life of Machines
I moved recently and had some small filing cabinets that needed to be moved downstairs (and subsequently back upstairs). I was amazed at how heavy the near-empty, cheap sheet metal cabinets were, until I saw the giant paver stones bolted to the inside back wall to give them support when the drawers are open.
I guarantee the salespeople said the weight meant they were built well
As someone who moves filing cabinets a fair bit for my job, this is actually super common, I see it all the time
Modern ranges/stoves do this also, and some of them even have the concrete blocks bolted to the outside where you can see them. Albeit on the back.
My dishwasher does as well, it’s a model on wheels and for the first couple of weeks it left flakes of concrete everywhere when I moved it.
Some higher end models have a cast iron weights instead.
Some cheaper models have two little people from New Jersey in them.
WHOAO….HEYAH.
What a rip off.
Yeah, you gotta keep stuffing lasagna and deli meats in your washing machine or else it’ll start to wobble.
Why don’t they just have a basin that fills with water? Would be much easier for moving.
Those who don’t know; have never moved.
Edger Allen Poe’s the Cask of Fabric Softener
Quote the Samsung, “Error: Door.”
There has to be some hippy out there selling organic fabric softener in a wooden cask.
The hippie probably doesn’t use fabric softener. That shit isn’t worth it in my opinion, and just makes things softer at the expense of lifetime and performance. Things like towels lose absorbency when you use it, workout clothes don’t wick sweat off your skin as easy, it can demonish the flame retardant property of kid clothes, and it can make it easier for mold/mildew to grow in your machine.
If you’re using it for static/smells, just use dryer balls and some essential oil. I think they’re also pretty good at softening your clothes.
“No need to service it. All parts last the lifetime of the machine” (the lifetime is 6 months)
It won’t move relative to the wall.
They’ll come out with flat washing machines next.
I thought we had those already.
Nobody mentioned yet how fucking loud this will be. Strong vibrations coupled to a resonating body like * YOUR HOUSE* sounds like a bad experience.
Could go either way I reckon, acoustically coupling the walls of your house to a big spinning drum
Do that in an US-American paper house and watch it crumble lol
On today’s episode of Extreme Built-In Appliances …
What are the issues by doing something similar? Let us say instead of concreate I have a custom bracket that will arrest any movement. What are the issues it can cause?
You’ll likely kill the motor or drum elements. In essence, your washing machine is an unbalanced centrifuge that tries to release the energy differential by moving the entire thing.
If you restrict its movement, the whole load and the respective mechanical stress will fall on parts moving and holding the drum. They are not meant to hold that kind of load and will break quickly.
Your house will blow up and explode
No, it will implode into a singularity. You’re thinking of a dryer.
Oh wow, I’ve always wanted a pet black hole. Send instructions to my PO box? (House still blown up, waiting on insurance).
I would, but it’s illegal to send that kind of stuff through the postal service.
Damn forgot about the damn postal service sniffing through my mail.
Alright it’s okay, gimmie your address, I’ll come over and stay a few days (the streets get lonely), then we can get to the brass tacks with these instructions (!), then I’ll probably stay a few more days (one month max, I promise).
Talked it over with the missus, and I’m afraid she wouldn’t go for it. Best I can offer you is a pup tent in the yard.
Sorry, but I gotta have my “relations” fix. Maybe if it were No Nut November…
Edit: Of course you’ll be on your own for facilities, btw.
The forces that would normally just affect the washing machine and the floor it’s on will now affect the bracketed surface. Depending on the type of construction the violent vibrations will start to decay that section of the building. Brick will eventually crack and crumble, wood may not break but it’ll be louder. The problem is mainly that with this setup there’s no extra dampener, so the best solution is to buy a washing machine with better dampening system. FWIW my machine suspends its drum with two shock absorbers on the bottom and two suspension springs at the top, and has a central motor instead of an offset one with a belt. It also has concrete counterweights and a digital load-balancing system. If you’re having problems with your machine you should find one with similar features
I propose the most practical option possible:
Simply isolate the washing machine completely from the building. Levitate it entirely off the ground, suspended in the air via a massive toroidal superconducting electromagnet, 3 meters in diameter, cooled by liquid helium. (Which will need to be regularly topped off. It tends to slowly leak through solid walls.)
The noise would be greatly reduced. As the machine thrashes about, it will do little but disturb the air around it. Little noise will be generated, except from the sound of the machine’s own parts acting against each other.
Though, if you really wanted to optimize this for this setup, a different design is in order? Perhaps a non-standard design would better handle internal vibrational damping? Have you considered calling local stores and asking if they have any spherical washing machines in stock?
Maintenance is probably the first thing that comes to mind and custom bracket that allows maintenance is just over engineering a simple solution like a hole or just leaving it standing in the same place where the bracket was supposed to be.
Washing machines are already designed to minimize all the movement it causes. It just isn’t worth the effort to do anything else to it.
Built-in washing machine.
wife is once again dissappointed.
How’s your wife going to use it to jerk off now?
Balancing a centrifuge.
I tried this with my top loader now i got a whole ’nother problem